tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29864506.post1157323890146982847..comments2023-11-03T05:49:10.841-04:00Comments on Storytelling Rules: When Plotting Isn't Much Different From Pantsing...Maureen McGowanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00494408580378817045noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29864506.post-10015864239737816672008-01-16T08:26:00.000-05:002008-01-16T08:26:00.000-05:00Actually, this doesn't happen to me quite as sever...Actually, this doesn't happen to me quite as severely as you are describing. As a pantster, I usually have a good idea of all the big emotional moments and the ending of my book before I really get started. And these are not written down in an outline, they are just in my head. The stuff I don't know and sometimes stress about are the connecting parts and the little details.<BR/><BR/>Sounds like you need to maybe cut some of your secondary storylines. That's a lot of characters with things to do in one book...unless, of course, they are all connected to the main plot. <BR/><BR/>I don't like to veer too off course with secondary characters...unless their thoughts, activities, reactions support the main story or enhance the main story.<BR/><BR/>Not sure if that helps or hurt!?<BR/><BR/>Good luck!K J Gillenwaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12023089365553324315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29864506.post-60698654048345167752008-01-15T13:29:00.000-05:002008-01-15T13:29:00.000-05:00I wish I could offer you advice, or give you my ma...I wish I could offer you advice, or give you my magic lamp (mine, all mine!!!) but I'm short on wisdom these days. (if you doubt this, see my Christmas Tree post)<BR/><BR/>But I can't wait to read it!! :DWylie Kinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09271148590574475682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29864506.post-66431031204750511172008-01-15T13:20:00.000-05:002008-01-15T13:20:00.000-05:00I'm definitely a plotter, I freeze when I don't kn...I'm definitely a plotter, I freeze when I don't know what's happening next, but I can never figure out the whole book. Just the main events, and usually those change..<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure I'm committed to plotting out the entire thing in advance..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29864506.post-61264844777271263272008-01-15T10:04:00.000-05:002008-01-15T10:04:00.000-05:00Hey Tasha! Glad to see you out of lurkdom. I hear ...Hey Tasha! Glad to see you out of lurkdom. I hear you with the chocolate - one of the bakeries near me has what has to be the best chocolate chip cookies in the world. And in the last five days I've probably had about twenty. And you know - it's working. It really is. I just finished the damn thing!<BR/><BR/>I think what I've come out of this with is that I do need to figure out my particular hybrid of plotting or pantsing. The pantsing aspect of this last book brought me some crazy good things - my subplots. My weird mafia related subplots. But I spend days trying to figure stuff out -which in the middle of a book feels like a nightmare. While at the beginning of the book - in the planning stages - I am prepared to spend as many days as I need. So, I need to either just get a grip of this new process or fine tune it.<BR/>I'm going to have a chocolate chip cookie and think about it.Molly O'Keefehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15171236688541657736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29864506.post-85253471992765014322008-01-14T14:54:00.000-05:002008-01-14T14:54:00.000-05:00Hiya Molly (waves from Illinois)-I've been reading...Hiya Molly (waves from Illinois)-<BR/>I've been reading your blog for some time and thought the panic in your post might indicate it's time to come out of lurkdom-ville. Granted, I haven't been writing long but I'm a pantser. Tried to be a plotter. Can't do it.<BR/><BR/>So this is what I usually do when the muses have duct tape over their mouths. Harps. Whatever the heck muses use to get their stuff to me.<BR/><BR/>Chocolate. When it's used for medicinal purposes (aka curbing panic) it has zero calories. <BR/><BR/>Spider soliatire, forty theives and free cell. I may not be on the best seller list (yet), but man I kick a** at spider soliatire. There should be a song written about how good I am at spider solitaire.<BR/><BR/>Laundry. That's right. You read it. I'm scraping the bottom of the procrastination bucket, but I've been known to wash, fold, put away and occasionally iron in the name of avoiding a blank page.<BR/><BR/>The trifecta of investigation - blog checking, forum catch up and website analysis. This is in the hopes good writing mojo will transfer via the world wide web. It didn't work when I used to try and learn physics by sleeping with the book under my pillow rather than actually open the book - but I'm a Capricon. We like to learn the hard way. And then check and make sure the same rules still apply. <BR/><BR/>When all of that doesn't work I try this. I think about one word. One line. One page. Not fifty. One.<BR/><BR/>And if that doesn't rip the tape of the muse's mouth: Chocolate. <BR/><BR/>You're okay. Breathe deep. Eat chocolate.<BR/><BR/>Love - TashaNatasha72https://www.blogger.com/profile/05600504239505039622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29864506.post-78684840909537632412008-01-13T23:09:00.000-05:002008-01-13T23:09:00.000-05:00You'll get through it, Molly. You always do. I sti...You'll get through it, Molly. You always do. <BR/><BR/>I still haven't figured out whether I'm a plotter or a pantser. I can't write without some general idea of where the book's going to end up, but on the other hand, I don't have the patience to plot out everything and since I've had no chance to ell on proposal, I haven't had to, yet. <BR/><BR/>I guess the closest I came was plotting out the sequel to the April Hillson book that I did when I thought April was sold. But when all that fell through, I never wrote past the fourth or fifth chapter of that book, so who knows how well my outline would have served me. Maybe some day I'll find out.<BR/><BR/>I still like the iterative process. Plan, write, go off in an unexpected direction, panic, and then plan again. It's scary, but I think it's what works best for me. <BR/><BR/>Sounds to me like you've hit the panic phase of your process. :-)Maureen McGowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00494408580378817045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29864506.post-38600552701480619202008-01-13T23:00:00.000-05:002008-01-13T23:00:00.000-05:00hello, my name is maya, and i'm a full-on pantser ...hello, my name is maya, and i'm a full-on pantser (*hi, maya* the group choruses)<BR/><BR/>my most memorable strategy in dealing with not knowing how to move forward was abandoning that wip and starting a completely new one. worked great for getting me writing, not so much for working myself out of the stuck wip...<BR/><BR/>i have complete and utter faith in you - but please, get that little boy back to his mom pronto - i have two little men of my own and can't bear to think of someone like them crying for their mom, even if it is a fictional character...M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07498466631016466048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29864506.post-45453782917828913172008-01-13T21:38:00.000-05:002008-01-13T21:38:00.000-05:00I'm also a die-hard plotter, and a few days ago my...I'm also a die-hard plotter, and a few days ago my plot blew up in my face. What's a writer to do? I need to stay in the lines, but the ABS is locked and I'm already veering off the road. Will the guard rail appear in time? >_<<BR/><BR/>Best wishes to you, though! I'm going to send you lots of Psyche Mojo and Head Lube for J.D. Men can be so difficult sometimes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com